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Shanghai Subway Tells Scantily Clad Women To Expect Sexual Harassment

Can’t stand the heat? Want to make a statement and wear something revealing? You may wish to avoid Shanghai’s subway.

The dress that started it all

It’s a bizarre incident that showcases just how far women’s rights still have to go in China. On June 20, tweeting from its official account on Sina Weibo, China’s twitter, Shanghai’s Number 2 Subway Line published a snapshot of a female passenger in a semi-transparent outfit and commented: “If that’s what you wear on a subway, then no wonder you will be sexually harassed! There are too many perverts riding the subway every day, and we can’t catch them all. Girl, you’ve got to respect yourself!”

A tiny victory for women’s rights

It’s strange enough that a subway line has its own official Weibo account; stranger still that it would voluntarily call out one of its own passengers and effectively invite sexual harassment. While the tweet is disturbing, at least it caused uproar among netizens who subscribed to the subway line’s feed. While the woman’s translucent dress was far from common Chinese couture, most passengers were disgusted by the commentary. 

@贺瑜-小鱼儿 exclaimed, “Even if she’s wearing a bikini, she should still be free from harassment! What is wrong with this subway line?” @指间_谁de旋律 blames the subway line for its inappropriate comment as well: “It is disgusting to hear this from an official Weibo! How does her outfit make her deserving of sexual harassment? Why should any outfit be considered as an invitation?”

The official account of Women’s Voice, an NGO for gender equality in China (@女权之声), was also outraged: “Sexual harassment is a crime! The subway line should try harder to be responsible for passenger safety instead of finding excuses for these criminals and blaming the crime on the victims!”

Crossing an invisible line

These young women tried to make a statement, but the effort fell flat with netizens

Things got even more heated from there. On June 24, two young women organized a small-scale demonstration in a Shanghai subway station to drive their displeasure home. Two young females, each wearing a black veil over their face, stepped into a crowded subway station with signs that read, “I want my coolness under the sun, but not the pervert in the subway,” and “I can reveal myself, and you cannot bother me.”  

But instead of showing the expected support, netizens turned on these two females. @王若翰Kitty complains: “We can always get rid of perverts through law or moral regulation, but you can’t ask everyone to pretend to ignore you when you wear really revealing clothes! This is an impossibly high bar.” @快乐小陶子 had a more unique take: “ I think a woman who wears revealing clothes in public is actually sexually harassing the men there. Regardless of your gender, you should not use the hot weather as an excuse to dress indecently. Public places aren’t your locker room; regardless of your gender, if you want to be respected by others, you have to learn to respect other people first.”

It’s certainly possible that the group of netizens reacting to the counter-demonstration were a different crowd than those who initially critiqued the subway’s shocking over-reach. Nonetheless, the sharp contrast in reaction suggests that the female demonstrators crossed an invisible line. Netizens took issue with the invasive, blame-the-victim mentality behind the subway line’s initial critique. But they showed very little sympathy for the two young women who took it upon themselves to raise more awareness for female autonomy.

Perhaps netizens will find it easier to accept creative demonstrations if they become more common in the future. Although Chinese women still have a long road to walk before true autonomy and equality is theirs, netizens’ defense of the female passenger is at least reassuring to some of us–especially females who might want to don a short skirt on a subway.

[Correction: An earlier version of this article incorrectly attributed a quote to @三块花期末有好运. We're sorry for the error.]

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A Cappella was born in China, but she spent her formative years between China, Canada, and the U.S. As a recent graduate of Yale, A Cappella is excited to return to China to work upon graduation, and she looks forward to exploring the changing landscape of China’s society and economy.
  • Asdf2012asdfjkl

    I‘m
     @三块花期末有好运。I support this activity.You completely misinterpreted what I mean,those words are not mine .

    • Dwertime

      Hi there @三块花期末有好运. You were misquoted; the statement quoted above was directed at you, not written by you. We’ve made the correction in the new version of the article. We’re sorry for the error, and thank you for reading!

  • Asdf2012asdfjkl

    I‘m
     @三块花期末有好运。I support this activity.You completely misinterpreted what I mean,those words are not mine .

    • Dwertime

      Hi there @三块花期末有好运. You were misquoted; the statement quoted above was directed at you, not written by you. We’ve made the correction in the new version of the article. We’re sorry for the error, and thank you for reading!

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  • 220VOLTS

    Dress like a tart; be treated like a tart. Not rocket science ladies.

    • rynsa

       Post like a troll; be treated like a troll.  Not rocket science, troll.

      • ThatCanadianGuy

        Women who dress like that aren’t really at fault for any sexual harassment, but they certainly aren’t helping the situation. There are many sick people out there, and showing off your underwear is not a safe way to deal with them

        • rynsa

          I’m all for measured presentations.  But promoting the idea that a particular style of clothing can enhance the likelihood of rape is to validate the absurd notion swimming around in the heads of violent men throughout the world that they are not personally responsible for their actions.  In this regard, we are implying that women must be more responsible than men; this is an inherent gender imbalance and I rebuke it whole-heartedly.  

    • http://twitter.com/AaronHawryluk Aaron Hawryluk

      If you think anyone other than the harasser is responsible for sexual harassment, you’re way off base.
      I’m a 40-year old male and I’ve never once groped a strange woman or masturbated in public. I have these two things called “discipline” and “self control.” Anyone who can’t exercise those two things needs a swift kick in the pants, as far as I’m concerned. I was led to believe these are highly prized Asian values.
      Men are more than capable of controlling themselves in a public venue regardless of what women might be wearing, and it should be expected of them. We should not be catering to those that can’t by telling women to cover up, we should be finding them and locking them up before they do any worse damage.

      • rynsa

        “Men are more than capable of controlling themselves in a public venue regardless of what women might be wearing, and it should be expected of them.”

        Exactly.  Well put.

    • 1maia

       Actually her dress is normal for there, if a bit sheer. And tarts don’t work the streets, they’re hidden in very discrete brothels.

  • 220VOLTS

    Dress like a tart; be treated like a tart. Not rocket science ladies.

    • rynsa

       Post like a troll; be treated like a troll.  Not rocket science, troll.

      • ThatCanadianGuy

        Women who dress like that aren’t really at fault for any sexual harassment, but they certainly aren’t helping the situation. There are many sick people out there, and showing off your underwear is not a safe way to deal with them

        • rynsa

          I’m all for measured presentations.  But promoting the idea that a particular style of clothing can enhance the likelihood of rape is to validate the absurd notion swimming around in the heads of violent men throughout the world that they are not personally responsible for their actions.  In this regard, we are implying that women must be more responsible than men; this is an inherent gender imbalance and I rebuke it whole-heartedly.  

      • sexmachine

        i just read this comment above–i am not a troll–i see bot sides of the argument but i likeed hiscomment because there is truth it. Love my exposed penis or shut up–im a man and loving it! I have a beautiful erect penis. i am going to flaunt it. I think people are acting petulant. She has a right to be naked in my book, but dont be shocked when people stare. When people dont look out for our interests we say–o how cruel and apathetic and uncaring the world is, but when a man simply warns her of possible negative reactions–he is demonized. maybe its none of his business. But when she is being raped–maybe it should be none of my business–i mean we should never interfere in other people affairs right–and maybe she likes it! (no, she doesn’t, and i should act to save her). Or no–she will slap me and call me a chauvinsit–tell me she can help herself–how dar i presume otherwise, how dar i presume she is a helpless woman–i ma just being so misogynist. When i open doors i open doors for everyone–so please women–dont hate me for it or accuse me of fantasying about your rump. Im a man and i do that anyways. HUman nature. im an animal. And you wouldnt dress fleshy if you didnt know it and didnt like it. Women are sexual creatures. they want it, they crave it. They think about it. Why deny it. Why oppress it? If you dress like that you will get suitors and tryers and animals lusting for your body–we are hard wired that way to pass on our genes. Get used to it. maybe her dress is not intended to be sexual–but it is. And part of her knows it.

    • Aaron Hawryluk

      If you think anyone other than the harasser is responsible for sexual harassment, you’re way off base.
      I’m a 40-year old male and I’ve never once groped a strange woman or masturbated in public. I have these two things called “discipline” and “self control.” Anyone who can’t exercise those two things needs a swift kick in the pants, as far as I’m concerned. I was led to believe these are highly prized Asian values.
      Men are more than capable of controlling themselves in a public venue regardless of what women might be wearing, and it should be expected of them. We should not be catering to those that can’t by telling women to cover up, we should be finding them and locking them up before they do any worse damage.

      • rynsa

        “Men are more than capable of controlling themselves in a public venue regardless of what women might be wearing, and it should be expected of them.”

        Exactly.  Well put.

    • 1maia

       Actually her dress is normal for there, if a bit sheer. And tarts don’t work the streets, they’re hidden in very discrete brothels.

  • brackishwater

    Right, let’s see what we have here…

    1) Was it totally dumb to send that Weibo, and did it expose that whoever was in control of it (male or female) is completely tactless? Absolutely. Stupid thing to do, and the netizen outrage has probably led to them being disciplined.

    2) Is it awful that anyone should be the object of unwanted sexual advances or discrimination on the basis of their gender? 100 percent. Nobody “deserves” sexual harassment, and it’s indefensible to suggest that anyone might.

    3) Are women’s rights in China way behind the West? Yes, and we all applaud the many people trying to change that.

    However…

    1) You’re seriously suggesting that the woman in the photo was not inviting attention? If you’re going to “make a statement”, you’re categorically inviting people to look at you, otherwise it’s not a statement. You can’t have it both ways…if you’re going to dress like that, people are going to look. How much looking constitutes sexual harassment (a term that the original Weibo message did not use…they just said “harass”)?

    2) If you’re going to get on your high horse about women’s rights, maybe don’t lead with a photo of the woman whose intimates were photographed without her consent?

    3) Judging from the comment below, you’ve rushed your Weibo journalism, and completely got the wrong end
    of the stick. Try harder next time.

    4) It’s not in any way strange that a subway line has a Weibo account. It’s easily the country’s most effective communication tool.

    5) A more idiomatic translation of the second protest placard might read: “I can be slutty, but you can’t touch me.” And does anyone else see the irony in deliberately attracting attention to your boobs (with a silver tin-can bra over your clothes, for example) to protest people looking at women’s private parts?

    • 1maia

       ”You’re seriously suggesting that the woman in the photo was not inviting attention?” People are extremely innocent there. The vast majority of university students know little or nothing about sex because their parents didn’t tell them. As a foreigner you are constantly inundated by people asking about sex! She doesn’t know ‘what she looks like’ because she hasn’t been made self-conscious since birth about it, she just sees herself in the mirror…it used to be like that here, it changed in the nineties (UK) i think the USA has been sophisticated for longer. Your comment is totally right, except that it’s impossible to explain how the context can be so different. A 6yo in UK is more self-conscious..although they are extremely pro-anorexic and bleach their skin, they’re very looks-conscious – just not so aware of what they look like, as a body, in others’ eyes.

      • BitchPlz

        OMG. You are so stupid…
        Statics.. Majority of Chinese women having premarital sex now has skyrocketed…majority of college women in china now have been exposed to multiple STDs…44% of highschools are not virgins…And you are even more naive if you think that bitch doesn’t knows what she’s doing ..she’s counting on it… My brother was an exchange student in china… He got more action there than in his own college..and got an STD from those bitches… World wide Asian women have the highest incidents of STDs… Yes these girls are so innocent jaja…

    • friday_freakin_jones

      All I see in that picture is an overdress that comes down to the ankle that is sheer, with an underdress that comes to the top of the knees that is opaque.  It’s meant to be pretty and eye-pleasing, but just because someone or something pleases our eye is no reason to assault them or it, after all, we’re human beings, not chimps.  The paintings in the Louvre are beautiful, does that mean we should get to take them home if they inspire feelings in us?

  • brackishwater

    Right, let’s see what we have here…

    1) Was it totally dumb to send that Weibo, and did it expose that whoever was in control of it (male or female) is completely tactless? Absolutely. Stupid thing to do, and the netizen outrage has probably led to them being disciplined.

    2) Is it awful that anyone should be the object of unwanted sexual advances or discrimination on the basis of their gender? 100 percent. Nobody “deserves” sexual harassment, and it’s indefensible to suggest that anyone might.

    3) Are women’s rights in China way behind the West? Yes, and we all applaud the many people trying to change that.

    However…

    1) You’re seriously suggesting that the woman in the photo was not inviting attention? If you’re going to “make a statement”, you’re categorically inviting people to look at you, otherwise it’s not a statement. You can’t have it both ways…if you’re going to dress like that, people are going to look. How much looking constitutes sexual harassment (a term that the original Weibo message did not use…they just said “harass”)?

    2) If you’re going to get on your high horse about women’s rights, maybe don’t lead with a photo of the woman whose intimates were photographed without her consent?

    3) Judging from the comment below, you’ve rushed your Weibo journalism, and completely got the wrong end
    of the stick. Try harder next time.

    4) It’s not in any way strange that a subway line has a Weibo account. It’s easily the country’s most effective communication tool.

    5) A more idiomatic translation of the second protest placard might read: “I can be slutty, but you can’t touch me.” And does anyone else see the irony in deliberately attracting attention to your boobs (with a silver tin-can bra over your clothes, for example) to protest people looking at women’s private parts?

    • 1maia

       ”You’re seriously suggesting that the woman in the photo was not inviting attention?” People are extremely innocent there. The vast majority of university students know little or nothing about sex because their parents didn’t tell them. As a foreigner you are constantly inundated by people asking about sex! She doesn’t know ‘what she looks like’ because she hasn’t been made self-conscious since birth about it, she just sees herself in the mirror…it used to be like that here, it changed in the nineties (UK) i think the USA has been sophisticated for longer. Your comment is totally right, except that it’s impossible to explain how the context can be so different. A 6yo in UK is more self-conscious..although they are extremely pro-anorexic and bleach their skin, they’re very looks-conscious – just not so aware of what they look like, as a body, in others’ eyes.

      • BitchPlz

        OMG. You are so stupid…
        Statics.. Majority of Chinese women having premarital sex now has skyrocketed…majority of college women in china now have been exposed to multiple STDs…44% of highschools are not virgins…And you are even more naive if you think that bitch doesn’t knows what she’s doing ..she’s counting on it… My brother was an exchange student in china… He got more action there than in his own college..and got an STD from those bitches… World wide Asian women have the highest incidents of STDs… Yes these girls are so innocent jaja…

        • friday_freakin_jones

          If women are bitches, then men are mongrel dogs born to said bitches.  Are you a mongrel dog?  Is your mother a bitch?  Then shut your misogynist mouth, you jackass.

    • friday_freakin_jones

      All I see in that picture is an overdress that comes down to the ankle that is sheer, with an underdress that comes to the top of the knees that is opaque.  It’s meant to be pretty and eye-pleasing, but just because someone or something pleases our eye is no reason to assault them or it, after all, we’re human beings, not chimps.  The paintings in the Louvre are beautiful, does that mean we should get to take them home if they inspire feelings in us?

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  • Not from Urumqi

    Hey! They’re playing xinjiang roleplay!

  • Not from Urumqi

    Hey! They’re playing xinjiang roleplay!

  • rynsa

    Fingers crossed this is just the tip of the iceberg.  I cannot tell you how many young women I met while working in Shanghai who quietly fumed from their receptionist desks for getting passed over in favor of a male colleague.  Perverts in the subway is a problem.  Sexist assholes in the boardroom is another.  Go Chinese feminism!

    • markuc

      and you’re so worked up because…

      • rynsa

        I’m not “worked up.” I’m an fan and ally of Chinese feminism. Bing, bang, boom: simple.

  • rynsa

    Fingers crossed this is just the tip of the iceberg.  I cannot tell you how many young women I met while working in Shanghai who quietly fumed from their receptionist desks for getting passed over in favor of a male colleague.  Perverts in the subway is a problem.  Sexist assholes in the boardroom is another.  Go Chinese feminism!

    • markuc

      and you’re so worked up because…

      • rynsa

        I’m not “worked up.” I’m an fan and ally of Chinese feminism. Bing, bang, boom: simple.

        • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

          thank you for being an ally

        • markuc

          Is that the line you use often when you try to bed innocent Chinese girls? If you are serious about feminism, I suggest to look elsewhere in the world where it is truly needed. i.e. Middle east, Africa, Central Asia. etc. Oh, what? you’re afraid of the risk that you might have to take at those countries? or is it that it’s easier to do lip service?

          • rynsa

            There’s an awful lot of ignorant speculation in your commentary, which indicates just how incapable you are of debating the issues on their merits alone. What you’ve done here is a classic version of the logical fallacy known as “ad hominem” attack. You’re taking issue with an individual, impugning his character, instead of addressing the content of his perspective. Poor form, markuc.

            And, for the record, I only bed one “innocent” Chinese WOMAN now — we just celebrated our fifth year anniversary, thank you very much. But my romantic life really doesn’t matter. The idea that feminism is only needed in certain parts of the world is completely asinine. Feminism is needed EVERYWHERE, including China.

      • wantonlust

        sad. feminism is not about cheap tricks and petulant attention getting sensationalism. i think it degrades feminism. And her ass and legs aren’t nearly good enough to be showcased for all to see. Why do it? To have people gawk and harass her–she wants attention. Its shallow unthinking childish behavior–not feminism. i don’t think a board room and a subway can be compared. And one doesn’t come to work naked or to class so why is acceptable to be so elsewhere–why is is feminism in the street but not workplace. if i come to work with my dick swinging is that my right or freedom of expression–is that feminism or masculanism? I think we can all agree that is inappropriate for a man to come to work inn his briefs or naked with balls out dragging the floor. There s nothing liberal or progressive about it. its just unnecessary. A bikini on the beach is to go swimming and cool off from the heat–but a dress that expose panties is a exposition. So don’t complain when one notices.

  • Kramer

    Since when is it ‘feminist’ to dress like any hooker on the street?

    • Slippi

      Because feminism is about choice, not pigeonholing women into one role or another. If a woman chooses to dress that way, it’s her prerogative and no one else’s.

    • http://twitter.com/AaronHawryluk Aaron Hawryluk

      Since the Sexual Revolution. 50 years ago or so.

  • Kramer

    Since when is it ‘feminist’ to dress like any hooker on the street?

    • Slippi

      Because feminism is about choice, not pigeonholing women into one role or another. If a woman chooses to dress that way, it’s her prerogative and no one else’s.

    • Aaron Hawryluk

      Since the Sexual Revolution. 50 years ago or so.

    • Morris

      It’s ‘feminist’ to dress as you choose. And to expect that no one has the right to grope you regardless of how you’re dressed.

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  • Zombi

     Dress like a whore, expect to be treated like one.

    • friday_freakin_jones

      Harass me on the subway, expect to get stabbed in the eyeball.

  • Zombi

     Dress like a whore, expect to be treated like one.

    • friday_freakin_jones

      Harass me on the subway, expect to get stabbed in the eyeball.

    • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

      Harass me on the subway, expect to lose your balls.

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  • Leila

    I’ve been following this news and it’s so exciting! I even started translating a post by Nusheng on my blog (http://blabberingon.wordpress.com/). But from what I’ve seen so far from the commenters, I would not consider this a “tiny victory.” I think this event reveals how much of the Chinese society has this deeply ingrained sexist idea, and how much of it dislikes the idea of feminism all together. In fact, I would say that Americans are not much better either. 

  • Leila

    I’ve been following this news and it’s so exciting! I even started translating a post by Nusheng on my blog (http://blabberingon.wordpress.com/). But from what I’ve seen so far from the commenters, I would not consider this a “tiny victory.” I think this event reveals how much of the Chinese society has this deeply ingrained sexist idea, and how much of it dislikes the idea of feminism all together. In fact, I would say that Americans are not much better either. 

  • Bobosox3

    Oh, please… what’s worse? Warning women to not wear *incredibly* revealing clothing because of the near impossibility of patrolling every car in subway, or reading about harassment or rape in the news? Obviously it isn’t right, but for gods sakes it’s common sense not to dress like that.

  • Bobosox3

    Oh, please… what’s worse? Warning women to not wear *incredibly* revealing clothing because of the near impossibility of patrolling every car in subway, or reading about harassment or rape in the news? Obviously it isn’t right, but for gods sakes it’s common sense not to dress like that.

  • Aliakbar

    woman want to look like whores so be it if she wants to look like a slut she should be treated like a slut 

  • Aliakbar

    woman want to look like whores so be it if she wants to look like a slut she should be treated like a slut 

    • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

      please die for the betterment of humanity

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  • Loretta

    I remember an incident at a university in the 70′s when a young woman in the students canteen stood in line wearing a top with stratetically placed holes in it.   A professor was seen to go a little closer and peering at the blouse whereupon the student, very annoyed, asked him what he  thought he was doing. His reply:  “Oh, I’m sorry, I thought that was the idea”

  • Loretta

    I remember an incident at a university in the 70′s when a young woman in the students canteen stood in line wearing a top with stratetically placed holes in it.   A professor was seen to go a little closer and peering at the blouse whereupon the student, very annoyed, asked him what he  thought he was doing. His reply:  “Oh, I’m sorry, I thought that was the idea”

  • eeeee

    Looks like a lot of people here are guys who can’t get any except fantasize about raping women on the subway. “Dress like a slut be treated like a slut”?! If this is how you think, then I assume you’re ok with Trayvon Martin being shot to death because he wears a hoodie, no problem robbing people who has on expensive jewelry, etc…”dress like a gangster, be treated like a gangster” “dress like a rich tool, be treated like a rich tool” I’ve never heard of those phrases before. You guys should all go back to whatever primitive cave you come from since you obviously don’t belong in any sort of human civil society.

  • eeeee

    Looks like a lot of people here are guys who can’t get any except fantasize about raping women on the subway. “Dress like a slut be treated like a slut”?! If this is how you think, then I assume you’re ok with Trayvon Martin being shot to death because he wears a hoodie, no problem robbing people who has on expensive jewelry, etc…”dress like a gangster, be treated like a gangster” “dress like a rich tool, be treated like a rich tool” I’ve never heard of those phrases before. You guys should all go back to whatever primitive cave you come from since you obviously don’t belong in any sort of human civil society.

    • wantonlust

      i understand what your saying but be reasonable. If a teacher walsk into a classroom wearing a hoodie that hides his entire face will the stundents feel awkward, intimidated, strange? Shouldnt there be some dress code in certain situation, not because we have to or because we can but because it just fits the situation and we respect others around us. I have no problem with hoodies but if im honest with myself wearing one on adark street might intimidate people. Do i want to intimidate poeple? Ok, fine then feel free to do so, But if not dont act all surprised when people fear you and react. In business or in learning, one should your face–its human nature to create trust and comfort and real communication. Talk like a bigot and people will think your a bigot–is there any surprise? Dress is the same. Dont act so shocked. Dress, appearance, mannerisms, are all forms of communication. Liberal progressiveness can be take to far. The reality is we are animals that take ques from appearance. We are peacocks. Dont be offended by nature. Simply commenting that she might be harassed is not so terrible–the man, unaware of your feminists texts, was just looking out for her best interests. he wasn’t trying to rape her or fantasying about it, im sure. i would just tell her to grow up , get a life. Does it bother me that she is half naked–not at all–does it make me want her–not at all. Do i want to talk to he–no. But i might stare. is that what she wants. to be stared at. is that any different than a rich tool who flaunts his money. its all self-centered ness–narcissism. This girl is a narcissistic–shallow–the worst kind. Its seems everyone is afraid to say it. Do i respect individualism–absolutely–but at the end of the day–who the f-cares. but then again if I as a man walk on the subway with my dick erect in open air–i might scare a few old ladies and disgust a lot more–its just not acceptable. Why the double standard?

  • Chalky234

    its simple really.  dress in such a way that you are not a plaything of the ignorant

    • http://twitter.com/AaronHawryluk Aaron Hawryluk

      How about we stop catering to the ignorant and start expecting a better standard of behaviour from them?

  • Chalky234

    its simple really.  dress in such a way that you are not a plaything of the ignorant

    • Aaron Hawryluk

      How about we stop catering to the ignorant and start expecting a better standard of behaviour from them?

  • kdlmn

    Actually I find the idea that this shows that China is “behind” e.g. the US deeply flawed. Are women’s rights behind in China? Yup. (Although ‘we’, the West, also still live in a patriarchy)
    But this particular issue is the exact same in the US. Just check out the creep reddit, which consists entirely of women being policed and objectified. Although many women are fully covered the reason given for why the reddit is okay was (this is a quote) “You can’t have it both ways. These dressed like whores.” Or check out this articles on the NY “Subway Girls” tumblr (the tumblr itself was closed by tumblr, after half a year or so): http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/you_creep_AOMw0kag0sStGyhI7a7yuI

  • kdlmn

    Actually I find the idea that this shows that China is “behind” e.g. the US deeply flawed. Are women’s rights behind in China? Yup. (Although ‘we’, the West, also still live in a patriarchy)
    But this particular issue is the exact same in the US. Just check out the creep reddit, which consists entirely of women being policed and objectified. Although many women are fully covered the reason given for why the reddit is okay was (this is a quote) “You can’t have it both ways. These dressed like whores.” Or check out this articles on the NY “Subway Girls” tumblr (the tumblr itself was closed by tumblr, after half a year or so): http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/you_creep_AOMw0kag0sStGyhI7a7yuI

    • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

      agreed. America is just as bad if not worse

  • 1maia

    I was in Shanghai about 4 years back,and VPL as it used to be known – visible panty (knickers) line – was everywhere. Women who aren’t working on the roads or homeless wear extremely frilly, feminine dresses, but sometimes a bit see-through, it’s entirely normal – the society is very protected, they don’t know what filthy-minded men see because they’re not aware of it due to their society and an inundation of women’s magazines to teach them terms like ‘VPL’. A bit extreme, but within the normal gamut. As for the protestors, you have no idea how much guts and originality that represents. 

  • 1maia

    I was in Shanghai about 4 years back,and VPL as it used to be known – visible panty (knickers) line – was everywhere. Women who aren’t working on the roads or homeless wear extremely frilly, feminine dresses, but sometimes a bit see-through, it’s entirely normal – the society is very protected, they don’t know what filthy-minded men see because they’re not aware of it due to their society and an inundation of women’s magazines to teach them terms like ‘VPL’. A bit extreme, but within the normal gamut. As for the protestors, you have no idea how much guts and originality that represents. 

  • In shock

    She actually is asking to be harassed and I am a female from Europe..but girls don’t dress like that at home for sure. I would never let my daughter dress like a tart… I mean she looks like she’s should be in some Asian porn film and dressed to get gang-banged on the subway!!!!
    This is not feminism … This is a disgrace and shows what low self esteem this young woman has that she has to resort to dressing like a whore to gain attention..
    Unbelievable … And then they said Asian girls aren’t easy and sluts… Looks like she’s perpetuating the stereotype.. Or is it merely the truth now…
    Very Sad!!!

  • In shock

    She actually is asking to be harassed and I am a female from Europe..but girls don’t dress like that at home for sure. I would never let my daughter dress like a tart… I mean she looks like she’s should be in some Asian porn film and dressed to get gang-banged on the subway!!!!
    This is not feminism … This is a disgrace and shows what low self esteem this young woman has that she has to resort to dressing like a whore to gain attention..
    Unbelievable … And then they said Asian girls aren’t easy and sluts… Looks like she’s perpetuating the stereotype.. Or is it merely the truth now…
    Very Sad!!!

    • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

      I’m sorry, but your home continent of good old europe is not much better when it comes to women dressing “properly” I can show you plenty of images of your european women in clothes easily deemed as “slutty.” There are women that dress this way in all countries, all states. To say your race is exempt from such behavior is racist and uninformed. Also, I don’t think you know what “perpetuating” means because you used it incorrectly. Get an education and come back and argue.

      • Feringo

        It looks like YOU don’t know what perpetuating means, because she used it quite correctly indeed. You’re just making yourself look like a dolt.

    • Prima Facie

      I’m in shock!, European “I am a female from Europe..but girls don’t dress like that at home for sure”….. have you been to Magaluf? Have you walked down RLD of the Netherlands?

      To judge people by there appearance you must be implying that girls who dress and show skin are all considered to have low self esteem….. good analytical reasoning. Have you ever considered the possibility that she is happy about how she looks and is confident enough to dress like that in public indicating a high self esteem value?

      Lastly are there no European girls that are considered easy or sluts? Hmmm I wonder what Berlusconi would say to that….

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M2UTKA5OB32WLP5L3KV34F5M6Q Maria Mayer

    public space is hardly the place to show sexual organs, primary or secondary, whether it is a woman’s cleavage or a man’s genitalia; if men started wearing no underwear and tight or see through pants, I bet women would denounce it as sexual harassment, and demand anti-erection devices; such hipocrisy. Leave the sexual display for the bedroom, the nightclub, or the beach, for spaces where it is expected.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_M2UTKA5OB32WLP5L3KV34F5M6Q Maria Mayer

    public space is hardly the place to show sexual organs, primary or secondary, whether it is a woman’s cleavage or a man’s genitalia; if men started wearing no underwear and tight or see through pants, I bet women would denounce it as sexual harassment, and demand anti-erection devices; such hipocrisy. Leave the sexual display for the bedroom, the nightclub, or the beach, for spaces where it is expected.

    • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

      no, no one would demand anti-erection devices. that’s only in your mind Maria. it’s a woman’s right to not be harassed regardless of what she is wearing as it is for a man. Basic human rights.

      • wantonlust

        ok, then i am going to start wearing a leather thong and jacket for erect penis and walk around all day in public with a skirt that exhibits it for all to see–its my right and anyone offended by is just a sexist loonatic that doenst understand me or men. Shame shame on you anti-men. I have a penis and i love it–its so beautiful when erect–i want everyone to see it and love it and adore it and stare at it.

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  • fred

    a particular style of dress – sexy, slutty, erotic – increases male sexual arousal; husbands should only be seeing the “interior” of their wives, containing arousal and sexual activity to the privacy of their home; these slutty women are now exposing their bedroom-dress to many men in a public space, and shocked that male sexuality responds – silly sluts; if these sluts can’t control themselves with what they wear in public, then you should expect slobs who can’t control themselves with how they react to sluts; both men and women are called to modesty which takes discipline – women controlling their desire to be “sexy”, and men controlling their desire for sex — you’re welcome, no charge

  • fred

    a particular style of dress – sexy, slutty, erotic – increases male sexual arousal; husbands should only be seeing the “interior” of their wives, containing arousal and sexual activity to the privacy of their home; these slutty women are now exposing their bedroom-dress to many men in a public space, and shocked that male sexuality responds – silly sluts; if these sluts can’t control themselves with what they wear in public, then you should expect slobs who can’t control themselves with how they react to sluts; both men and women are called to modesty which takes discipline – women controlling their desire to be “sexy”, and men controlling their desire for sex — you’re welcome, no charge

  • sky

    Free spirit of fashion and style, she is young, does not mean she is a slut. I bet if the dress was sold with a sheer slip she would of worn it. Young women wear what they think is in fashion. Nothing more nothing less. This fashion is not for all.

  • sky

    Free spirit of fashion and style, she is young, does not mean she is a slut. I bet if the dress was sold with a sheer slip she would of worn it. Young women wear what they think is in fashion. Nothing more nothing less. This fashion is not for all.

  • jfkaefkaef

    She is a whore. It is as easy as that.

    • Toby1

      You are a loser. Easy peasy.

  • jfkaefkaef

    She is a whore. It is as easy as that.

    • Toby1

      You are a loser. Easy peasy.

  • Alesandro

    Photoshop. tsk tsk, will anything honest ever come out of China…

  • Alesandro

    Photoshop. tsk tsk, will anything honest ever come out of China…

  • dd

    Good, feminism leads to treason and sympathy for outsiders. Turn that shit down.

  • dd

    Good, feminism leads to treason and sympathy for outsiders. Turn that shit down.

  • Harvard Rules!

    At least they won’t get pregnant…

  • Harvard Rules!

    At least they won’t get pregnant…

  • aloneforlife

    Interesting article about propaganda and the proliferation of neo colonialism in the east. Given that “women’s rights” are anything but. Funny how a sick, violent, crime ridden, unequal, anti-male matriarchal society barely 300 years old. Believes that it has the right to lecture a society well over 2000 years old. Perhaps the Chinese are wrong too for not eating pizza hut everyday? People this is absolute propaganda. You need to recognize that empiralist societies like that of the usa and uk have an interest in exporting their sick culture into other countries. In an effort to undermine their cultures and the right of their own people to mold their society into what they visualize it to be. The goal for these ‘feminists’ (supremacists) has always been the redistribute wealth in an effort to economically disenfranchise men. That is the game. it has absolutely nothing to do with ‘equality’. America is a sick society and like any disease it will not stop until it sickens the entire world with it’s backwards anti-life, ant-male, anti-family, Anti-CHILDREN ideology.

    If I dangle meat in front of a lion should I be surprised if it bites my arm off? Thus the same could be said for these low life’s who dress like whores. It creates a reaction in men and some men use less restraint than others. Rape is not entirely the man’s fault. Rape is NOT always about ‘power’ as the feminists have led you to believe. Lock a lion in a cage away from food, water and companionship and see what he does when he gets out. Societies are like cages for men. Women and the media have dictated that men are not worthy of love or respect unless they fullfill certain requirements such as wealth, looks, a big car and other material things. The phrase, ‘everyone deserves to be loved’. Certainly does not apply to most Men. Many Men generally and especially in western nations are isolated and treated very badly. Some men go their entire lives without ever knowing a hug, a kiss or what it means to be cared for. Nobody cares. It’s all cause and effect people. Society creates the very condition that it condemns. But much of it falls on the shoulders of women who bear no responsibility in anything. Even if they do the raping! These chinese women who have been seduced by western feminists/fascists are certainly the merchants of evil and will only bring the same chaos in the west to china. Allowing for the women’s, lesbian markets to obtain a strong foothold. Then they can sell chinese women Oprah magazines, Ellen cosmetics and convince them that asian All men are worthless, inferiror to women and their oppressors. The fall of the chinese family and society is primed and set. All from the actions of these capitalist feminist fascists. USA East is will rise and the world will die a little more. Neo colonialism is a ‘bitch’. Quite literally.

  • aloneforlife

    Interesting article about propaganda and the proliferation of neo colonialism in the east. Given that “women’s rights” are anything but. Funny how a sick, violent, crime ridden, unequal, anti-male matriarchal society barely 300 years old. Believes that it has the right to lecture a society well over 2000 years old. Perhaps the Chinese are wrong too for not eating pizza hut everyday? People this is absolute propaganda. You need to recognize that imperialist societies like that of the usa and uk have an interest in exporting their sick culture into other countries. In an effort to undermine those cultures and the rights of their own people to mold their society into what they visualize it to be. The goal for these ‘feminists’ (supremacists) has always been the redistribute wealth in an effort to economically disenfranchise all men. In the end all Men will be slaves. That is the game. It has absolutely nothing to do with ‘equality’. America is a sick society and like any disease it will not stop until it sickens the entire world with it’s backwards anti-environment, anti-life, ant-male, anti-family, Anti-CHILDREN ideology.

    If I dangle meat in front of a lion should I be surprised if it bites my arm off? Thus the same could be said for these low life’s who dress like whores. It creates a reaction in men and some men use less restraint than others. Rape is not entirely the man’s fault. Rape is NOT always about ‘power’ as the feminists have led you to believe. Lock a lion in a cage away from food, water and companionship and see what he does when he gets out. Some societies are like cages for men. Women and the media have dictated that men are not worthy of love or respect unless they fullfill certain requirements such as wealth, looks, a big car and other material things. And then even if… The phrase, ‘everyone deserves to be loved’. Certainly does not apply to most Men. Many Men generally and especially in western nations are isolated and treated very badly. Some men go their entire lives without ever knowing a hug, a kiss or what it means to be cared for. The fact is that Nobody cares. It’s all cause and effect people. Society creates the very conditions that it condemns. But much of it falls on the shoulders of women who bear no responsibility in anything. Even if they do the raping! Which they do too! And a lot of it, much directed at young boys. But again, who cares? Right? Like in the recent election, America is all about ‘Women’s rights’. Men and Children do not have any rights it seems.

    These chinese women who have been seduced by western feminists/fascists are certainly the merchants of evil and will only bring the same chaos in the west to china. Allowing for the women’s, lesbian markets to obtain a strong foothold. All of wich is engineered by marketing firms. Then they can sell chinese women Oprah magazines, Ellen cosmetics and convince them that All asian men are worthless, inferior to women and are their oppressors. The fall of the chinese family and society is primed and set. All from the actions of these capitalist feminist fascists. USA East is will rise and the world will die a little more. What was once China will be replaced by Taco Bell, Walmart, Lesbian families and millions of lonely incarcerated men. That is their dream. Neo colonialism is a ‘bitch’. Quite literally.

  • inachu

    attention whores. If you do not want to be looked at in a sexual way then wear a burqa with a fan underneath!

  • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

    thank you for being an ally

  • markuc

    Is that the line you use often when you try to bed innocent Chinese girls? If you are serious about feminism, I suggest to look elsewhere in the world where it is truly needed. i.e. Middle east, Africa, Central Asia. etc. Oh, what? you’re afraid of the risk that you might have to take at those countries? or is it that it’s easier to do lip service?

  • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

    please die for the betterment of humanity

  • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

    no, no one would demand anti-erection devices. that’s only in your mind Maria. it’s a woman’s right to not be harassed regardless of what she is wearing as it is for a man. Basic human rights.

  • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

    agreed. America is just as bad if not worse

  • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

    Harass me on the subway, expect to lose your balls.

  • http://twitter.com/patrioticpussy olivia

    I’m sorry, but your home continent of good old europe is not much better when it comes to women dressing “properly” I can show you plenty of images of your european women in clothes easily deemed as “slutty.” There are women that dress this way in all countries, all states. To say your race is exempt from such behavior is racist and uninformed. Also, I don’t think you know what “perpetuating” means because you used it incorrectly. Get an education and come back and argue.

  • Prima Facie

    I’m in shock!, European “I am a female from Europe..but girls don’t dress like that at home for sure”….. have you been to Magaluf? Have you walked down RLD of the Netherlands?

    To judge people by there appearance you must be implying that girls who dress and show skin are all considered to have low self esteem….. good analytical reasoning. Have you ever considered the possibility that she is happy about how she looks and is confident enough to dress like that in public indicating a high self esteem value?

    Lastly are there no European girls that are considered easy or sluts? Hmmm I wonder what Berlusconi would say to that….

  • rynsa

    There’s an awful lot of ignorant speculation in your commentary, which indicates just how incapable you are of debating the issues on their merits alone. What you’ve done here is a classic version of the logical fallacy known as “ad hominem” attack. You’re taking issue with an individual, impugning his character, instead of addressing the content of his perspective. Poor form, markuc.

    And, for the record, I only bed one “innocent” Chinese WOMAN now — we just celebrated our fifth year anniversary, thank you very much. But my romantic life really doesn’t matter. The idea that feminism is only needed in certain parts of the world is completely asinine. Feminism is needed EVERYWHERE, including China.

  • Morris the Wise

    It’s ‘feminist’ to dress as you choose. And to expect that no one has the right to grope you regardless of how you’re dressed.

  • wantonlust

    sad. feminism is not about cheap tricks and petulant attention getting sensationalism. i think it degrades feminism. And her ass and legs aren’t nearly good enough to be showcased for all to see. Why do it? To have people gawk and harass her–she wants attention. Its shallow unthinking childish behavior–not feminism. i don’t think a board room and a subway can be compared. And one doesn’t come to work naked or to class so why is acceptable to be so elsewhere–why is is feminism in the street but not workplace. if i come to work with my dick swinging is that my right or freedom of expression–is that feminism or masculanism? I think we can all agree that is inappropriate for a man to come to work inn his briefs or naked with balls out dragging the floor. There s nothing liberal or progressive about it. its just unnecessary. A bikini on the beach is to go swimming and cool off from the heat–but a dress that expose panties is a exposition. So don’t complain when one notices.

  • wantonlust

    i understand what your saying but be reasonable. If a teacher walsk into a classroom wearing a hoodie that hides his entire face will the stundents feel awkward, intimidated, strange? Shouldnt there be some dress code in certain situation, not because we have to or because we can but because it just fits the situation and we respect others around us. I have no problem with hoodies but if im honest with myself wearing one on adark street might intimidate people. Do i want to intimidate poeple? Ok, fine then feel free to do so, But if not dont act all surprised when people fear you and react. In business or in learning, one should your face–its human nature to create trust and comfort and real communication. Talk like a bigot and people will think your a bigot–is there any surprise? Dress is the same. Dont act so shocked. Dress, appearance, mannerisms, are all forms of communication. Liberal progressiveness can be take to far. The reality is we are animals that take ques from appearance. We are peacocks. Dont be offended by nature. Simply commenting that she might be harassed is not so terrible–the man, unaware of your feminists texts, was just looking out for her best interests. he wasn’t trying to rape her or fantasying about it, im sure. i would just tell her to grow up , get a life. Does it bother me that she is half naked–not at all–does it make me want her–not at all. Do i want to talk to he–no. But i might stare. is that what she wants. to be stared at. is that any different than a rich tool who flaunts his money. its all self-centered ness–narcissism. This girl is a narcissistic–shallow–the worst kind. Its seems everyone is afraid to say it. Do i respect individualism–absolutely–but at the end of the day–who the f-cares. but then again if I as a man walk on the subway with my dick erect in open air–i might scare a few old ladies and disgust a lot more–its just not acceptable. Why the double standard?

  • wantonlust

    ok, then i am going to start wearing a leather thong and jacket for erect penis and walk around all day in public with a skirt that exhibits it for all to see–its my right and anyone offended by is just a sexist loonatic that doenst understand me or men. Shame shame on you anti-men. I have a penis and i love it–its so beautiful when erect–i want everyone to see it and love it and adore it and stare at it.

  • sexmachine

    i just read this comment above–i am not a troll–i see bot sides of the argument but i likeed hiscomment because there is truth it. Love my exposed penis or shut up–im a man and loving it! I have a beautiful erect penis. i am going to flaunt it. I think people are acting petulant. She has a right to be naked in my book, but dont be shocked when people stare. When people dont look out for our interests we say–o how cruel and apathetic and uncaring the world is, but when a man simply warns her of possible negative reactions–he is demonized. maybe its none of his business. But when she is being raped–maybe it should be none of my business–i mean we should never interfere in other people affairs right–and maybe she likes it! (no, she doesn’t, and i should act to save her). Or no–she will slap me and call me a chauvinsit–tell me she can help herself–how dar i presume otherwise, how dar i presume she is a helpless woman–i ma just being so misogynist. When i open doors i open doors for everyone–so please women–dont hate me for it or accuse me of fantasying about your rump. Im a man and i do that anyways. HUman nature. im an animal. And you wouldnt dress fleshy if you didnt know it and didnt like it. Women are sexual creatures. they want it, they crave it. They think about it. Why deny it. Why oppress it? If you dress like that you will get suitors and tryers and animals lusting for your body–we are hard wired that way to pass on our genes. Get used to it. maybe her dress is not intended to be sexual–but it is. And part of her knows it.

  • Feringo

    It looks like YOU don’t know what perpetuating means, because she used it quite correctly indeed. You’re just making yourself look like a dolt.